DRIVING LAMPS UPGRADE-in factory location.
Hi everyone.
The pinin comes with useful high up foglamp locations in the bumper.
DRIVING lamps would be more useful to me. To extend the range without the vibration/flutter of top of bumper conventional spotlamps
Has anyone fitted 90-100mm long range spotlamps in that location? Ideally budget LED lamps would be the modern approach.
HID probably too dear.
But I will go with halogen or your proven advice
(These do not have to be road legal as it is off road only.......)
Happy pinin drivin'!
Ps the cibie Oscars stick out too far , don't look right,or will get bashed on top of bumper. On the roof means cable routing problem.
If I go for roof mounting,
If I go for roof mounting, how would I fit the bars?
I would have a go making my own, but there seems no easy mounting points.
This has no bars at all standard, otherwise I could just get crossbars and modify these.
The cable routing idea was a useful idea!
Ps am not wanting to drill the roof-with this amount of rainfall, some would end up inside, rusting the floor...
Where there's a will, there's a way...
I've seen LED bar mounts that are attached to the "underside" of the roof where the door fits.
If you're willing to consider drilling the roof, Rhino Rack has low profile rails that are supplied with butyl rubber seals to prevent leaks.
Cheers. I would consider
Cheers.
I would consider fitting the factory longitudinal rails but have no info on them.
Then mount to the crossbars.
On my other 4x4 it had gutters, so I built a bar to suit with gutter clamps out of steel welded together.
So modern stuff is not as simple. . .if the factory rail bolts on with no drilling to inside count me in. I don't want to remove the headliner .
Vans seem to use some bracketing without gutters.
Thanks fordem. No drilling
Thanks fordem. No drilling then? Special tools?
I will just have to be lucky to find some in a scrapyard. V.useful to have..
As a connecting aside is anyone finding the newer cars with Led lamps approaching toooo bright?
I know several wearing night glasses because of them. Off road anything is ok. But around city's towns etc it's overkill. Did they test them from behind the steering wheel and not bother looking into them !!!???
More design needed to focus the beam and have lower settings suitable for urban areas.
Syndicate
Did you say "high up"?
They are below the bumper - how high can that be?
Fog lamps are always mounted low down - the intent being to get the beam under the fog and also reduce the reflection of the light off of the droplets of moisture in the fog, back into the driver's eyes. Driving lamps need to be mounted higher up as that directly impacts the range - the lower the lamp is mounted, the less range you will be able to achieve.
Lamps properly mounted above the bumper will not vibrate or flutter, and it is not difficult to do on the iO, although it can be time consuming, and you will need to drill holes through the bumper's plastic skin - underneath that plastic is a folded sheet metal reinforcement with holes that appear to have been intended for driving lamp mounting, remove the bumper and you'll see what I'm talking about.
On the matter of lamp selection - from the time you mention range and budget, you can forget about LEDs - you won't find an LED light with any sort of reach worth mentioning at any price that can be considered as budget - if you don't want to spend the extra for HID, go halogen, and bear in mind, this is one area where you get what you pay for - forget the "budget brands", go for the low end models of the known names - have a look at the Hella Comet 500 (round) or 450/550 (rectangular) - the Comet 500s have been around for over 25 years, a testimony to good design.
By the way - roof mounting is not necessarily an issue - both of my cars have been cabled for roof lights and you'd have to go hunt for that cable to know where it is - it runs internal to the roof rails, down alongside the rear door and enters the cabin along with the rear door cables - because I took the time to do it right it looks factory installed and there are no leaks.