Fuel filler hose

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ThomasZA
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Well, it seems the honeymoon is over after a week. My IO/Pinin suffers from the dreaded filler hose rust issue. A bit peeved off with the seller, but that is being dealt with separately.

I have downloaded the manuals in the resources section, but cannot find a section that deals with the removal/refitting of the fuel tank and filler hose. Does someone perhaps have a couple of pointers, or a link to a guide that explains the steps? I'll really appreciate it.

Thomas

1995 Land Rover Discovery Td5

2001 Mitsubishi Pajero Pinin 2.0 GDi long body

2005 Volvo V70 d5

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filler hose

You don't have to remove the fuel tank to remove the filler hose.

Under the rear guard you have to remove the plastic cover, it does have some plastic fixation that require to unscrew the middle section, some will have to be broken as you cannot fit a screw driver (cable tie instead for the installation), or sometime they are just stuck !! You should be able to buy new one (same fixation that hold the inlet of the air filter on the front of the car). Then you will see the filler hose, it does have 2 bolts on the inside of the fuel trap, then another one, visible once you removed that plastic cover. The last thing is to disconnect it from the fuel tank, 50 mm hose clamp,....done.

This is all from memory, but nice and easy....no more than around 20min.

Let me know if you have to remove the tank.....

Happy io

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Thanks Claude! I'll let you

Thanks Claude!

I'll let you know how I get on. Perhaps a photo essay of the "procedure" for the forum?

Regards,

Thomas

1995 Land Rover Discovery Td5

2001 Mitsubishi Pajero Pinin 2.0 GDi long body

2005 Volvo V70 d5

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Me too

ThomasZA wrote:
Thanks Claude! I'll let you know how I get on. Perhaps a photo essay of the "procedure" for the forum? Regards, Thomas

 

My turn to do this job!! sad

 

Did you fix it??

 

I too have had the motor only a short while.  I reckon if I tug at it the pipe will crumble.frown

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It was fixed

helijohn wrote:

Did you fix it??

Sorry for the belated reply.  I bought my car from a dealer, and after giving it some thought, threw my toys out of my cot, and in summary - the car was repaired as a Mitsubishi dealer of my choice at the seller's expense.  Since then, the car has behaved impeccably.  A bit thirsty (11l/100km) my my wife - it's her car - love it to bits.   

 

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2001 Mitsubishi Pajero Pinin 2.0 GDi long body

2005 Volvo V70 d5

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Interesting

ThomasZA wrote:

helijohn wrote:

Did you fix it??

Sorry for the belated reply.  I bought my car from a dealer, and after giving it some thought, threw my toys out of my cot, and in summary - the car was repaired as a Mitsubishi dealer of my choice at the seller's expense. 

 

Thanks, I've already contacted the seller (garage) if nothing elese to get me the part but I don't hold out much hope.  It looks to be a low level job with the pipe being the most expensive part of the whole operation........until it comes to a rot box.  Then it is a nightmare.

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An alternative

Claude io wrote:

You don't have to remove the fuel tank to remove the filler hose.

Under the rear guard you have to remove the plastic cover, it does have some plastic fixation that require to unscrew the middle section, some will have to be broken as you cannot fit a screw driver (cable tie instead for the installation), or sometime they are just stuck !! You should be able to buy new one (same fixation that hold the inlet of the air filter on the front of the car). Then you will see the filler hose, it does have 2 bolts on the inside of the fuel trap, then another one, visible once you removed that plastic cover. The last thing is to disconnect it from the fuel tank, 50 mm hose clamp,....done.

This is all from memory, but nice and easy....no more than around 20min.

Let me know if you have to remove the tank.....

Happy io

 

What about replacing the steel  pipe with silicone hose??

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NIGHTMARE

Claude io wrote:
the filler hose, it does have 2 bolts on the inside of the fuel trap, then another one, visible once you removed that plastic cover. The last thing is to disconnect it from the fuel tank, 50 mm hose clamp,....done.

This is all from memory, but nice and easy....no more than around 20min.

Let me know if you have to remove the tank.....

Happy io

 

Claude, 20 mins??????                Help.

Two screws holding the neck to the filler flap.  Had to get the impact driver on one screw and the body metal gave way! angry  Once the neck was off I repaired the hole in the bodywork and got the grips on the screwbolt.

Then the retaining bolt low down to the body work................cut that off with tinsnips.laugh  That's all gone now.sad

Then the hose clip at the junction of the metal pipe to the rubber hose...............what a farce.  Fancy putting a wire clip in that position.  It wouldn't shift, then the head sheared so eventually used  a padsaw and saw the wire.angry

The return pipe's clip actually came off like it should, one minor miracle.surprise

So now pull the pipe away from the short rubber hose..................yeah some hopes.angry  I think the rubber has done a Spock and melded with the hose.

By now it is 3½  hrs later and I have had enough.  I put the neck and pipe back in place, closed the fuel flap and walked away.angry

I don't want to cut the hose but I can't find a way to get it off the pipe or rather, to get the pipe off the hose.frown  If I could get the pipe off the tank at the other end  it might help but I bet that would be just as stubborn.angryI am tempted to cut a trapdoor in the floor to access this little sod.

 

 

 

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Sorry...not 20 min

I recently had to remove one for someone, it didn't take 20 min, but 15 min :)

I think that the rust is playing with you, I am in Canberra and it is dry, away from the sea and rust is not a problem here, making thing much easier. And I have done that work...3 or 4 time now....

Maybe try to slide a small screw driver in the joint (metal pipe, hose) and go around, and spray some WD40 or similar. It should free up a little at a time. Or cut that rusted pipe and maybe get an exhaust place to built one for you.

Happy io

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Finally

Claude io wrote:

I recently had to remove one for someone, it didn't take 20 min, but 15 min :)

I think that the rust is playing with you, I am in Canberra and it is dry, away from the sea and rust is not a problem here, making thing much easier. And I have done that work...3 or 4 time now....

Maybe try to slide a small screw driver in the joint (metal pipe, hose) and go around, and spray some WD40 or similar. It should free up a little at a time. Or cut that rusted pipe and maybe get an exhaust place to built one for you.

Happy io

 

It's off, wahay!!  Long screwdriver and loads of WD40.

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WD40

15mins laughlaughlaugh

 

Yes I am going to use a length of wire to do like you said with a screwdriver to get WD 40 in there.

Work in progress on my just acquired delapidated  2003 Vivo 11 Junior in need of TLC    

Do it right, use Hammerite.

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