Key with remote control - need new code/key internals...

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Hi, 

We just bought ourselves a second hand Pajero. The car came with one key with remote central door locker that works fine. Inside the car we later found another key with remote central door locker, however the remote control  appears not to work. Mechanically it works, but would be nice to have the remote function work. 

 

I opened both the key that works and found what i think is the code for the remote. The one remote that does not work has another code. Anyone knows where I can order the key internals with correct remote code so that I can get it work? The cost...?

 

Thanks

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Assuming it's a Pajero iO -

You're asking here, so I'm going to assume you have a Pajero iO, not a full size Pajero, not a Pajero Jr, not a Pajero Mini, but an Pajero iO.

Two scenario's come to mind - one you have a remote that is not working (maybe it needs a new battery) or the controller needs reprogramming.

Under the driver's side dash is a 16 pin connector - insert a jumper wire connecting #1 to #4 - and then depress the hazard light button six (6) times - the doors should lock & unlock, indicating that the system is ready to be programmed.

Press any button on the remote three (3) times - the doors should lock & unlock, indicating that it has accepted that remote - repeat this step for each remote.

Remove the jumper wire and you're done.

 

I got my iO with one key/remote, which has never worked - I have replaced the battery, I have tried reprogramming, and I can get the system into programming mode - I can hear when the doors lock & unlock the first time - but after that nothing.  I'd love to find new transmitters key blanks or even a good used key with transmitter so I can swap the board into my key.

 

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Any risk?

Thank you!

Yes - it is a Pajero IO. Model no. GF-H76W LNXC with engine 4G93... whatever these numbers mean .. ;-)

I think battery is ok, and that the remote actually works properly. However I think it has the wrong code. As I wrote, I have oe remote already working properly, however this other one, which looks brand new and unused, has another code/label stamped inside when I open it (I opened both remotes to see if I could find some code inside - which I think I did. The functioning one has code 2329D1 (or 2029D1), the non-working has code 0349D1 stamped inside).

However, before conducting this procedure... is there any risk that I might ruin the already functioning key remote? Can the system accept 2 different remote codes, which I think will be the case here as I already do have one that works properly?

I'm struggling a bit in finding this H76W model in the otherwise so fabelous manuals somebody were so kind to upload. I would like to adjust the idle speed a little bit, because I get some severe engine/transmission vibrations on idle RPM when i start driving from zero speed.. It is some kind of own-frequency, so I thought maybe lifting the RPM a bit could help in avoiding that...  I think the engine supports are ok.

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No guarantee

The system accepts up to four remotes - I offer no guarantees, only a procedure that I found buried in a manual on the internet.  In theory, once you get into programming modem you WILL need to program ALL the remotes.

However - let me ask you this - you think the battery is OK and that the remote works properly - maybe your remote is different to mine - mine is built into the head of the key, no LEDs, just two push buttons - I can check the battery with a meter, and I can put a new one in - both of which I have done, but there is no way short of actually locking or unlocking the vehicle for me to tell if the remote works - what makes you say that the remote works properly (or at all) if it does not lock/unlock the vehicle.

If your remote is built in to the key, as mine is, and that key works mechanically - what are the chances that it does not belong to the vehicle?

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So...

 

 

Again thanks!

So what you say is that I will have to carry out this procedure for both my keys - or can the system still handle the old one even if I reprogramme for the new one?

No guarantees, of course I won't put the blaim on you if it does not work.

The 'new' remote is built into the head of the key, but the key can be opened with a small star shaped screwdriver. It has two buttons separated with a red  LED (actually a column shaped rectangle). On the rear side it has the Mitsubishi logo in silver.

The 'old' key/remote that works properly, which I assume is original, can also be opened with a screwdriver, and like yours, this one has no LED - only two push buttons.

The reason why I think the 'new' key/remote otherwise is ok is;

- it looks brand new - I guess the previous owner bought it as a spare key and what he got was this one

- the light on the key looks strong when pulling the knobs, hence assuming batteries are OK

- what I assume is the remote system code printed inside the key's heads appear to be different - that's why I assume they are, but both  are probably OK. I also assume the previous owner has got the key and has not done the reprogramming procedure, hence just used it as a mechanical key, or had it as a spare.

 

 

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Now that I have those details

Yes - I agree that sounds like a replacement key - which may or may not be the correct one.

The way I see it is - if you can't get the system into programming mode - the old key will continue to work - that is you won't be able to "unprogram" it, but if you do get the system into programming mode, you need to program all the remotes to make sure that they work.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained - the chances of ending up with the original remote non functional do exist, but I think are relatively small, and there is a chance you can get the new remote functioning - your call.

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Pin Connector

Tried to search foro the pin connector. Is it free hanging, ie. not plugged in male to female? 

Found one that could be it - free hanging female. 

My poor eyes could not see any numbering on the plug holes - are they marked with numbers? If not  - how do I find the no 1 and no 4?

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Here you go.

It's a 16 pin connector on a bracket mounted near the transmission tunnel - looks like this ...

 

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Didn't make it...

Unfortunately, didn't makei t before I had to leave the country... The wifte is posted in Africa and I was for a visit. Didn't have the proper tools to get under the dash and connect. But I don't think the pin connector I got the glimse of looked exactly like the one on your sketch - but not too different either? It's hard when you have no tools but your wifes all-in-one leatherman-cheap-lookalike... ;-)

I'm going back after new year, then to stay permanent the next 3 years. I'll bring lots of tools and hopefully I'll have it fixed then. And issues with the car as well. Thanks so far!!

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would this programming work

would this programming work on any remote i:e one from ebay etc , mine doesnt have a remote and it would be good to get one but an original from mitsubishi is approx £110.00 , if i can get a universal remote do you think it would work?

Andy

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$64,000 question.

Personally I don't think so, but there's only one way to find out ...

Get one from a seller who will accept a return and try it, and then let me know so I can buy a couple - I would do it myself, but shipping to South America is a killer, especially the return shipping, so anything I buy HAS to work.

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The forum software is weird!

I don't know why, but I can edit some of my posts but not others - and it's not based on how old the post is ...

Anyway - my arthritic knee was acting up, limiting how much I could do without assistance, so I spent most of the day "thumbing" through manuals - and I came across the section that deals with programming the keyless entry.  My earlier post doesn't say that you need to have the key in the ignition, so I was going to edit it to add that, but I can't - the forum won't let me.

You'll find the details in section #42 of the manual.

I don't recall if my earlier efforts were with the key in or not, so I'll have another shot at it tomorrow.

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Programmed remote but drivers door not working

Hi there,

Wondered if you had any advice for me.  I've just purchased a 99 Pajero IO and love it.  It came with a key and remote but the remote wasn't working.  I found your post online, followed it and it worked.  However it doesn't seem to be working on the drivers side door.  Locking with the key operates all doors but the remote only operates the passenger and rear door.  

Any assistance would be most appreciated.

Much thanks

Karen

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Just a guess...

My guess is the driver's door power lock "actuator" has either failed or is disconnected.

Each door will have a power lock motor or actuator that locks & unlocks it - they are all wired in parallel, so the same signal triggers all of them - if you're using the key on the driver's door, it will unlock that door, and the power lock system will unlock the others so that it may appear as if they all work, when in fact that one may not.

When you were doing the programming, there is a point when all the doors lock & unlock to indicate that the system has accepted the command - did you by any chance notice if the driver's door latch moved?

You could also try your key in the front passenger and back door - but don't be surprised if nothing happens - some vehicles only sense the key on the driver's door.

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Thank you for getting back to

Thank you for getting back to me so quickly.  No I didn't take note to see if the lock moved when pressing the hazard switch.  I'll try again tomorrow morning.  If it is the actuator (either faulty or disconnected) is this something that's easy to reconnect or replace or is it something that I would have to go to a dealer for?

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Sometimes...

Sometimes you have to find things out for yourself - this is one of those.

How easy it is to reconnect will depend on where it's disconneced, how easy it is to replace will depend on where you are and the availability of parts - you will need to take the door apart which isn't difficult for the reasonably mechanically inclined.  There are a couple of screws that hold the inner handle in place, remove those and pop the panel - it's held by plastic friction clips.

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Keyless entry for Pajero

Hi All

Thanks for the post on programming the new remote, I have just used the instructions and would like to add a couple of points I discovered along the way.

1. I used a paper clip bent so that I could place it in pin 1 position and earth it to the bracket supporting the plug, (I could not get it to work using pins 1 & 4).

2. I found that the I needed to wiggle the paperclip a bit to get a good earth/connection and hold it with one hand during the whole operation.

3. One key must be in the ignition in the off position with the doors closed, push the hazard button 6 times (thats 3 times on & off) the locks should cycle (took me a couple of goes to get this to work).

4. Push the lock button on the remote you want to program 3 times & wait for the locks to cycle again.

5. Then straight away push the lock button 3 times on your original remote and wait for the locks to cycle.

6. If you don't carry out step 5 the original remote will no longer function!!!

If you do find that the original remote wont work after getting the new one to work don't panic just go through the steps again.

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remote not working

The 99 io I recently bought have a remote for central locking that doesn't work....I have tried what is described above, pin 1 and 4, press 6 time the warning....but nothing happen then (no lock cycle) .... the key is on the ignition, "off" position, and doors are closed. I know that the car have central locking as it does work when using the key, in the driver side door lock that is. I know that the pin are connected together, as the engine warning light is flashing when I put the key on "accessory"

The fact that the "lock cycle" is not happening made me think that it could be a different system....not sure...?

Thanks in advance for your help (Fordem, I guesssmiley)

Here is a picture of the remote, is it the same or a different model, my 2002 io have the same remote but different key.

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Remote

Hi Claude, my '99 1.8 MPI car has the same key and remote.

You don't mention the battery - presumably you've put a new one in. Have you opened it up to check if there's anything obviously wrong inside - bad connection, etc.

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key/remote

Thanks, yes all done, new battery....but the main problem seems that I haven't be able to enter the programming mode: the stage where the doors locked ("lock cycle") after pressing 6 times the warning light. I thought that even if the remote is not working, I would still be able to enter to that programming mode....

I got the car back on the road, and going well.... I am doing the smaller work/check up......I probably have to put a new radiator :(

Happy io

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Yes.

It should go into programming mode even if you don't have a working remote - at least mine does.

You may be mis-timing the switching sequence on the hazard light switch - I think you get like 10 seconds in which to enter the six pushes - so it's connect the jumper wire, count 1, 2 and then stab the hazard light switch rapidly 6 times. 

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Thanks...it worked...and I have a working remotesmiley....BIG thank you. I am not good with all these programming, it is a good feeling to have this fixed yes

The little story....

I tried the "within 10 seconds" and the lock cycle worked (big smile on my face then) but after pressing the remote...nothing happen, tried again...nothing...I just lost my smile. 10 minutes after, I remember removing the battery to check the reference number for another forum member. After putting the battery back in, and feeling a bit "stupid !" I went through the process again, and, yes the smile is back on....

I found a bit easier to use the paper clips at the back of the plug, more space and easy to do....and won't damage the connection....

From the advice at the shop, I used the 2032 battery, it is a bit thicker but should last longer, and does fit with no problem.

Thanks

Happy io

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Many thanks to all the

Many thanks to all the contributors on this post, yesterday my spare key arrived and today i programmed in less than 2 minutes. The number of the replacement for the iO on Mitsubishi is “6370A318” and looks like this:

http://transmitter.com.my/ecatalog/image/cache/data/IMMO%20REMOTE/MITSUB...

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Cheap and nice key

Here is an alternative key for the iO, works well

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32865623759.html?spm=a2g0n.orderlist-amp.i...

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Just be aware ...

That different keys are used in different markets - the frequency used may vary.

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Right...

Yeah. The frequency vary by market. Used that key on my two JDM iO's.

On the chinese keys the frequency may be reprogrammed.

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Not sure still online, but

Not sure still online, but can you share to me a newer link (Aliexpress) or alternatively give the FCC ID and frequency of the alternate Aliexpress key. 

Also would you know the FCC ID & frequency of that part number 6370A318 be?

 

Thank you.

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Keyless Fob for part number 6370A318

had-z wrote:
Many thanks to all the contributors on this post, yesterday my spare key arrived and today i programmed in less than 2 minutes. The number of the replacement for the iO on Mitsubishi is “6370A318” and looks like this: http://transmitter.com.my/ecatalog/image/cache/data/IMMO%20REMOTE/MITSUBISHI_L200_TRITON_REMOTE_KEY_2B-500x500.jpg

 

Not sure still online, but can you share to me a newer link (Aliexpress) or alternatively give me the FCC ID and frequeny of the alternate Aliexpress key.

Also would you know the FCC ID & frequency of that part number 6370A318 be?

Thank you

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Looks the same

Hi, this one looks the same or very similar to the one i buyed years ago, hope this helps you.

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNRaB7u

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Looks the same

had-z wrote:
Hi, this one looks the same or very similar to the one i buyed years ago, hope this helps you. https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNRaB7u

 

Thank you very much for this. I see the part number is different from the original so fingers crossed it will work

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