Please help with wheels with little lift

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lakikwap
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Hello all. I am writing to you from Poland. I have Pajero Pinin 2.0. The car has shock absorbers KYB 334405 and Mazda springs at the back. I have 2 small questions...

1. I want put rims 16x8 5x114,3 ET-10 . will it be a good choice?  (Of course I know that the wheels will stick out, and I will have to do fender widening) 

2. If so, what can I put on the largest tires? (Probably AT BFGoodrich or Cooper Discoverer A/T3)

I am sorry for my English.... Best regards and please reply.

 

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Helpful?

Hi,

 

I dont know weither it would be helpfull. i've got the stock 16 inch alloy wheels with 30mm spacers and 225-65-16 tyres.

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Hey Dutch ...

It would probably be more helpful if you told us which front struts you have fitted - that tends to be the limiting factor because of the location of the spring pan.  There are two different styles, the strut data thread will show you how to determine which one you have.

http://pajeroio.com/forum/strut-data

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will measure then :)

Hi,

 

I will measure it tomorrow since i got something grinding on the brakepad that needs to be taken care of.

 

Depending on which length i've got i might be able to lift the front? Yesterday i saw the post which told me that i can lift the rear end by using Mazda Astina(323F) front springs... those are fairly cheap so i will give that a go.

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There's a lift thread that explains the options...

Essentially there are two struts that were fitted - the difference is the position of the lower spring seat or pan - one has it 245 approx mm from the bottom of the strut, the other has it around 265 mm - the big issue is that the strut with the lower pan limits the size of the tire that can be fitted.  If you have the strut with the lower pan, replacing it with the strut with the higher pan lifts the vehicle by roughly 20~25mm, and, at the same time, provides a little more clearance for a larger tire.

Be warned however, if you already have a lift, either from stiffer/longer springs, or spacers, you can run into issues with the strut topping out and/or exceeding the permissible angle on the CV joints.

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at this stage i dont have any

at this stage i dont have any lift but i've read about the CV boots getting torn if you lift it to much.

unfortunatly i havent got around measuring the strut yet.

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It's not so much the boots...

Boot life is shortened, but the big issue is exceeding the "maximum" angle the joint can function at with a combination of steering lock and droop, the joint will bind and then grenade - rough tests done by forum members suggest that two inches of lift is the maxiumum unless the front suspension crossmember which carries the engine, steering & differential is lowered.

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fordem wrote:

It would probably be more helpful if you told us which front struts you have fitted - that tends to be the limiting factor because of the location of the spring pan.  There are two different styles, the strut data thread will show you how to determine which one you have.

http://pajeroio.com/forum/strut-data

No much need to measure, he said that he does have the KYB 334405, to me those are the higher spring pan....unless i missed something :)

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That was meant for DUTCHPAJERO

Hi Claude - that was meant for DUTCHPAJERO who has responded to LAKIKWAP with a tire size that he knows fits his car, but we don't know what strut his car has, you are right LAKIKIWAP does have the higher pan struts.

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Oops, yes you are right, sorry !! What a pain those different type of strut !!

Thanks

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COIL SPRINGS LIFT FOR THE BACK

lakikwap wrote:

Hello all. I am writing to you from Poland. I have Pajero Pinin 2.0. The car has shock absorbers KYB 334405 and Mazda springs at the back. I have 2 small questions...

1. I want put rims 16x8 5x114,3 ET-10 . will it be a good choice?  (Of course I know that the wheels will stick out, and I will have to do fender widening) 

2. If so, what can I put on the largest tires? (Probably AT BFGoodrich or Cooper Discoverer A/T3)

I am sorry for my English.... Best regards and please reply.

 

Hello lakikwap I have a Pinin 1.8 my self and I´m also interested in lift the car. Can you tel me what mazda springs do you have? from what car, or some reference? thanks, and hope all is going well, best regars from Portugal!

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You'll find the details...

The details of the Mazda springs are well documented...

http://www.pajeroio.com/forum/ettiennes-build-sa

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16x8 -10 rims

Yes,

stock is 16x6 -46,
if you fit 16x8 -10 then the inside of the rim will be about 10mm outwards from stock i.e. 10mm further away from the strut.

they will stick out a LOOOOOOONG way, an extra 61mm (over 2 inches!!)

I've run 16x6.5 -38 and a 225-75-16 tyre was flush with the outside of the wheel arch. To go the 16x8 you'll be wanting some serious bolt-on flares to cover the tyre

 

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