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Sometimes I wonder ...

Is it that I'm too outspoken, or is that I'm too much of a perfectionist - when it comes to lighting, it's probably more of the latter and less of the former.

I'm sorry to say it, in my opinion those lights suck - it's hard to gauge the range given the "lack of reference", but the area that is lit appears to be woefully small, even if the vehicle was parked and the lamps being used to set up camp, which is my interest in them, I need LEDs to minimize battery drain because I'll be doing this with the engine off.

For a moving vehicle, you need more spread (left~right coverage) and you need more range (fore~aft coverage), go either HID or halogen - or get a decent LED bar.

I've used a lot of different lights over the years, from cheap "no name" lights to top brands like Hella & Marchal - I have Hella Comet 500s (their low end driving light) on my GV, and I'm searching for a second set for the iO - they should be easily available in Australia, but not so easy to find on this side of the world, the German made ones are preferable to those from Taiwan.

Lighting is one area where you generally get what you pay for - the exception being LED lights - the majority of which are coming out of China and being resold by various vendors, they all look alike, and often come out of the same factory, but the quality is inconsistent - good LED lights from the top brands run into the hundreds of dollars.

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Love your work!I might have

Love your work!
I might have to get me some of those lights too. Id rather 4 of them than 2 expensive ones?

 

 

</span>Topher<span style="font-size: 12px;"> wrote:
Claude&nbsp;</span>io<span style="font-size: 12px;"> wrote:

I love the palm tree at the background, you probably don't see them anymore as they are here all the time but for me (in Canberra) it is a holiday sign !!!...

Happy io

Ill cut them down and ship them to you. Im sick of them haha

 

WHAT,, I love palms, oneday ill live somewhere warm and have a palm garden! My uncle has 10 acres of palm garden up near mt warning.

Id love to have a cane palm hedge fencing off my yard! In fact i have some, but it would take 100 years before they got that size here in melbourne!

 
 

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My girlfriends dad works for Kumho, so im in luck there? :)

Maybe we can all be in luck there? :) Id love to try some KL71s 235/85/16 please :)

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Change of plans

Im thinking of moving the lights to the rear and getting a 8100lm 22 inch led bar with spot/flood combo. But I have a fishing rod holder in the middle...so may just buy 2 spot lights amd add them if they will fit and make the floods more offset towards the sides of the car...hmmm..I also figured out a much neater way to wire it all up.

Also watch this space as I am developing a transfer case bashplate/gearbox crossmember re-enforcement upgrade. It will be a weld-on product only out of 5mm steel.

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getting serious...

Getting serious here !

Just a few advices to take into consideration when you are building your bash plates. Think about the weight of the 5 mm plate....while 5 mm would be very strong, a bit thinner might be suitable, and lighter.....

For your light, couldn't you built a bracket to fit your rod older and the light on the top to each other ? or even better get 2 smaller rod holder on either side of the light ?

Happy io

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Mhmm..

Yeah im doing more thinking on both. With the light im thinking maybe a
bracket to sit the light higher so the rods can sit underneath. But I have 12ft beach rods so...hmm..maybe move the rod holder to the front and sit the light on it?

5mm wouldnt weigh more rhan 5-8kg. But I could consider 3mm. Depending on how big it is. Remember most fourbys have bullbars bashplates and extra tires as added weight

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It might be an idea to check local laws ...

I believe in Australia some areas require auxiliary lights to be fitted in pairs making a single light bar a "gray" area - you could also consider mounting your driving lights lower down, my personal preference is headlamp height - try driving with the ones you have now - your pictures don't show a "driver's eye view, but I think I can see them reflecting off the bonnet, which has a tendency to create "glare" problems.

Another potential issue with roof mounted driving lights is that they illuminate any dust in the area in front of the windscreen - one of the vehicles I sometimes use is my daughter's Nissan Xtrail which came with a factory option roof rack with recessed driving lights - the design prevents them from illuminating the bonnet, but as I mentioned the light reflects of the dust.

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New Laws.

New laws regarding led bars have been brought out. Pretty much says if they are for onroad use theu must be wired to the high beam switch. And they must be mounted centrally. Without creating driver glare. And I dont get glare from where
My lights are mounted. It lights up raindrops really well though so dust would be noticable.

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Stuck

The iO is stuck in 4H. Quite pissed off about it tbh cause its ruining my plans.
 

So im off to the 4wd manual gearbox specialist in coopers plains (qld) to get a idea of whats going on. He said he'd give it a crack at getting it unstuck for nothing but if not it'll have to go on a hoist which im fresh out of $$ for as rego is next week...FFFFFantastic!

Angry iO! 

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Just thought I'd mention it ...

You can drive the vehicle in 4H (but not 4HLc or 4LLc) with no issues other than slightly increased tire wear & fuel consumption - just in case you do need to use it before you can find the cash.

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Trasfercase Update

Got around to playing with the transfercase & I have got it into 2H. ended up taking it apart from inside the car. Bit of dicking around and im still unable to go 4wding because as soon as i move the leaver it gets stuck again...ill have a chat to my mechanic but i believe it will be off to a specialst soon :/

Photos will come soonish

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Is the rubber/plastic bush on the shift lever intact?

One of the possible causes of the transfer case shifter not working properly is a missing bush - it's made from some sort of plastic or rubber which crumbles and falls into the transfer case - I've had issues with it, as have a couple of other forum members - is yours in place?

How much sideways play does the shift lever have - anything more than 1~2mm in 2H suggests the bush is gone.

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Bush

Yeah is that the bush that sits in the lever section? Cause it crumbled. but theres another one there? The one that crumbled was a maroon colour.

There wasnt much left of it...

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It's just a suggestion ...

You might want to try dealing with the bush before taking the car to a specialist - the details are in the thread where you mentioned it being stuck in 4H - where I come from specialists charge specialist prices, replacing the bush was, at least for me, a quick & easy fix - a couple of hours at most and that includes the time taken to make the replacement from a shock rubber.

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New Rubber!

Kumho 225/75/R16 muddies are on sale through my missus old man's work So new tires next week hopefully :D ($100 each)

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AWESOME! Get me some and ill

AWESOME!

Get me some and ill give you my struts :)

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kumho

LOL...not only he is getting an very very cheap price for his tyres....now he is getting free suspension with it....

Topher, you're the king...

Happy io

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Tyres

Tyres have arrived!!! Not going to put them on till I get my transfer case sorted. I snapped a bolt the other day trying to undo it. I have lost patience though so I'm not sure when that will happen.

Happy iO

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New Rubber!

Tyres are going on this sat hopefully. Also transfer case will be fixed over the next two weeks with a modification of mine included in the transfer case.

My internal snorkle is coming together, measurements have been made just decicing on the final design. will be using intake piping from autobahn. and possibly including a actual Snorkle head inside the engine bay as i know some of them have a water "drain" design. Price should be under $60 and i may consider making kits if a few are interested. Also will be sealing the stock airbox and may even be running a pod filter in the box as there are kits for the 4g94 from the lancer :D

Happy iO!

P.S my radiator is leaking from the top..will have to get that looked at.

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Wooohooo!!

Hooray for tyres :P some much needed traction coming your way, now you just need to take a trip to king springs ;)

I am keen to see how your snorkle design would work, can't even picture it in my head...

Yeah I had the top plastic tank of my radiator replaced (from leaking at the top, same as yours??) and the whole thing reconditioned for $150 if you want I could refer you to the place that did mine?

 

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Yup

Exactly the same problem.

I would really appreciate your recommendation if you wouldn't mind.

I can't wait I'm getting them on this avo.

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radiator

I don't know whether they have a website but :

http://www.yellowpages.com.au/qld/caboolture/rudds-radiator-service-13219431-listing.html

I had mine done from the radiator fellow there called Vernon, and it was $150 NOTE it would have been higher if you want to drop your vehicle in, I just took my radiator out of my car and dropped it in to him and then installed it back onto the paj after.

But for $150 he can replace the top tank, recondition the radiator and replace the O ring and seals. He was reccomended from some car enthusiasts at work and he did a magnificant job on mine! Your radiator will look like new!

EDIT: I know this guy is in Caboolture so I can take it with me to work and drop it off to him and pick it up and take it home again if you want to drop the radiator to my house and/or you're more then welcome to go there yourself haha!

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Tyres are on!

New shoes are on but with an hours worth of messing around from kmart tyre and auto, beaurepairs, jax tyres and some other knob.

None of them would fit my tyres. Kmart told me there were 50mm too big and i laughed at them and grabbed my keys and left. beaurepairs jax and that other company refused to fit them too as they were legally "8mm too big" in rolling diameter. so after an hour i was fuming and decided to head home, missed my turn off and ended up seeing another tyre shop and as he was independant I decided why not, dropped in and told him my issue straight up. He laughed and said that as Kumhos are slightly bigger than other tyre brands in rolling diameter that same size tyre in any other brand would fit. he said he would put the tyres on the rim for me but he cant fit them to the vehicle for legal reasons. I said thats fine ill bring the rims around next friday, He then said "Just drive her in now and we'll sort you out"

35mins later I came back with my car out the front with the new tyres on!

Sorry for my little rant. But it was fustrating after driving 40 mins to brownsplains to go to kmart tyre and auto and them telling me they cant fit them and they wont fit anyways.

No scrub on standard suspension.

Happy iO!

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Let me ask the question...

Depending on which state you're in, you're legally limited to a tire size no larger than 15mm or 50mm in diameter over the largest size stated on the tire placard - if you get pulled over & defected, is the tire shop who fitted the tires in any way liable (including civil litigation)?

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new tyres

Give it a few track, bit of climbing, some mud....more "ioing" and you will notice that you have made one of the best "modification" on your io, and they look great too. My advice is drive carefully on the black top for a while, the handling is going to be different.

Another advice, replace your suspension, you mentioned that it is no longer the best (in your signature) This with the bigger tyres might give you some more wandering at higher speed and at changing lane fast . New strut will help if it is the case. Could make a small and cheap lift at the same time.

Welcome to the mad mud tyres world, can wait to see video of your io going through that mud section (from your early post) and read what you think of them in the close future.

Happy io

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Totally illeagal

Yes, they are correct.

Standard tyres are 215/65-16

Qld allows 15mm larger diameter

215/70-16 should be fine
225/75-16 are around 25 to 30mm bigger

Some car insurance is void, you can be defected by cops

BUT

I feel personally it's worth it, once my lift is in i'll be getting an engineer to cert the mods and the supercharger.

(adding a supercharger to a 4wd in qld is easy)

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Supercharger..

Bob... You've peaked my interests!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Bob... You've peaked my interests!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hum.....ME TOO...

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tyres

To Bob... ME TOO worth every cm of track that I have been on. I have started to work towards having these tyres "legalised", this is why I fitted the speedo kit to have it adjusted. One more thing to finish :).....

Topher, if you read this....stop...and go and try these tyres...that will make you smile for a few days.....lol.

Happy io

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Totally Illegal

That's the reason I asked the question ...

As a modification it may be perfectly safe, however, the powers that be, for whatever reason, have deemed it unacceptable - when you choose to break the law, are those who assisted you in any way liable - once the answer to that question is yes, then management policy will dictate that the corporate chains refuse you, the independent guy who actually mounted the tires is probably his own manager, and decided to take a chance on you.

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:P

bob_oz wrote:
Yes, they are correct. Standard tyres are 215/65-16 Qld allows 15mm larger diameter 215/70-16 should be fine 225/75-16 are around 25 to 30mm bigger Some car insurance is void, you can be defected by cops BUT I feel personally it's worth it, once my lift is in i'll be getting an engineer to cert the mods and the supercharger. (adding a supercharger to a 4wd in qld is easy)

No engineering required!!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/High-powered-electric-TURBO-SUPERCHARGER-KIT-for-Cars-/190865594780?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c7079d99c&_uhb=1

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Cheap power upgrades!

 

Wow that kit probably adds like 150kw right!!? :P

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fully sick bro

simmo777 wrote:

Wow that kit probably adds like 150kw right!!? :P

oh my god fully! 
+ 1 psi
sickness bro, sickness

better go chuck some heli's maaaaaate

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Qld rules

New rules have been released in qld allowing 50mm. So every other shop said apart from kmart. But ohwell. Worth it I think

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still no good

Topher wrote:
New rules have been released in qld allowing 50mm. So every other shop said apart from kmart. But ohwell. Worth it I think

Nope - no good. So the old allowable 15mm increase to radius is now 25mm increase to radius, so a 225/75-16 is still illeagal (372mm from 343mm = 29mm)

Specification  Sidewall  Radius  Diameter  Circumference    Revs/km  Difference
215/65-16         140mm   343mm     686mm         2155mm        464        0.0%
225/75-16         169mm   372mm     744mm         2337mm        428        8.5%
235/70-16         164mm   368mm     735mm         2310mm        433        7.2%
215/80-16         172mm   375mm     750mm         2357mm        424        9.4%

 

The other interesting change is allowing lift kits - as prior allowable lift was a percentage of total suspension travel, now it is a flat 75mm above standard including all tyre lift. i.e. your sills can now be 75m higher than before as measured from the ground, achieved either by tyre size increase, suspension spring increase or both but NOT body lift spacers - these still need engineers certs.

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supercharger

spoken about this before:

http://www.pajerio.com/forum/high-flow-exhaust#comment-10580

plans to mount in place of power steering pump and relocate pump to drivers side or run an electric one

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bob_oz wrote:

The other interesting change is allowing lift kits - as prior allowable lift was a percentage of total suspension travel, now it is a flat 75mm above standard including all tyre lift. i.e. your sills can now be 75m higher than before as measured from the ground, achieved either by tyre size increase, suspension spring increase or both but NOT body lift spacers - these still need engineers certs.

I was talking to the mob that did my mod plates for changing my car to a 2 seater, when I asked him about getting a mod plate for a suspension lift he said the process was something like you had to write to the dept of transport and tell them what you planned to do, then they would respond saying yay or nah, then you could do the work and take it in for inspection and approval.  Never bothered to follow up how true it all was.

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Changes to my lighting setup

A central led bar will be sorted out and purchased in a few weeks (2-3)

I have one in mind. . $440 30,000LM light bar. Its a stacked bar measuring just over 30cm from my rough guess. I have viewed it in person and its crazy. My roof lights will then be pointed at almost 90 degree angle from the front of the vehicle so they face outwards. If that makes sense. Also planning my rear light and winch setup. Intake will be finished this week.

Happy iO

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Not the tyre shop

fordem wrote:

Depending on which state you're in, you're legally limited to a tire size no larger than 15mm or 50mm in diameter over the largest size stated on the tire placard - if you get pulled over & defected, is the tire shop who fitted the tires in any way liable (including civil litigation)?

Nope, it's the drivers responsibility to ensure they are complying with road rules etc

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bob_oz wrote:
fordem wrote:

Depending on which state you're in, you're legally limited to a tire size no larger than 15mm or 50mm in diameter over the largest size stated on the tire placard - if you get pulled over & defected, is the tire shop who fitted the tires in any way liable (including civil litigation)?

Nope, it's the drivers responsibility to ensure they are complying with road rules etc

My understanding is that the driver is responsible but the shop can be too...may be at different level but still....

Happy io

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Did you notice I included civil litigation?

Let me suggest a scenario.

You go to a tire shop, pick out a set of tires which exceed the acceptable maximum change and they fit the tires, you then pay the bill and depart - sometime within the next 30 days the vehicle is involved in an accident and a claim is made against your insurance - during his investigation, the insurance adjuster discovers that your tires are not legally acceptable and denies the claim.

What's the possibility/probabilty of a civil suit being filed (successful or not) against the tire shop - on the basis "they should have told me it was illegal"?

In Guyana (where there are no regulations concerning vehicle modifications) - it would never happen - the lawyer would laugh you out of his office,  In the US, you could/would probably find a lawyer who would accept the case and file the suit - what would an Australian lawyer do?

For the sake of thoroughness, I'll point out here that whether or not you can win the suit is not really relevant - the defendant (the tire shop) has to spend time & money paying lawyers and appearing in court, so even if you lose, he's probably still out of pocket (unless the judge awards costs).

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Ill jump in

Ill jump in and say the tyre shop can be held responsible. Thats why my recepte says tyre refit, tyres supplied with rims no vehicle fitting required drop off and picked up by customer.

They have a legal responsibility just as we do.

Damaged my rh guard last nightl. Door doesnt close. Photos this avo while I repair the damage.

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Rain

Rain is not playing nice. Im fixing the car on sat. I have started buying parts for the snorkel. Should be done on the weekend. Although with $25 for one part you have a right angle piece of intake piping that can face fowaeds or backwards for on/off road use. I will go into detail when I find all the parts I need. Also the dipstick seems to be in the road a bit. But ill see if I can get around it.

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Snorkel!

Hurry up and fix your IO :P

Then get your snorkel in!!

Then let me show you how my extractors go while we hit some tracks up somewhere!!

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Internal Snorkle compete

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More photos and topic discussion tomorrow. Im tired and going to bed.

Happy iO!

01 ZR LWB, 2 sets of kumho KL71s on rims, custom one off belly plate, lukey sports exhaust and a right foot to suit!

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This should be interesting - have you driven it yet?

That looks like it's sitting in direct contact with the exhaust manifold shroud - it'll be interesting to see what effect the heat has on the PVC, and also on the engine performance.

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It doesn't touch

Ill upload some more photos but it doesn't touch. Hard to tell as I just got my tires on. That setup is for off road only. I do have a daily setup as well.

Im doing a 40min highway drive with that setup this avo though to see how it holds up

01 ZR LWB, 2 sets of kumho KL71s on rims, custom one off belly plate, lukey sports exhaust and a right foot to suit!

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01 ZR LWB, 2 sets of kumho KL71s on rims, custom one off belly plate, lukey sports exhaust and a right foot to suit!

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Exhaust rattle

I had a horrible rattle in the exhaust. After 3 days my car was booked into beenleigh mufflers (i work at yatla so its close by) He did what I asked, new cat and 2 1/4 inch exhaust tucked up to the body as tight as possible. cant really see the muffler without getting on the ground and having a good look. Welding was shit. like horrible. and it had a pin hole but im very picky and you couldnt breath as soft as the air coming out of the pinhole so it wasnt massive but i still made them fix it. ill probably pull it off over the next week to reweld it. if you want something done properly then do it yourself.

More plans, flip the spare wheel, move my lights to the back for reversing/recoveries/camping. fit a uhf. Custom draws are in mind with a dual battery system and aircompressor built in. uhm what else...hid kit on the mind but brakes need attention and im getting a full custom bashplate made up..with a..nah i wont tell you all yet :P

Happy iO!

01 ZR LWB, 2 sets of kumho KL71s on rims, custom one off belly plate, lukey sports exhaust and a right foot to suit!

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