2.0 GDI 5door M/T - two sorts of prop shafts?
Hi,
has anybody got a clue why this parts catalogue has two different part numbers each for the front and rear prop shaft assemblies, respectively?
https://partsouq.com/en/catalog/mitsubishi/part?catalog=EU&model=H77W&co...
prop shafts
appears a year model change
http://www.auto-parts.spb.ru/cat/mi/mi2.mycat?SelItm&t=y2P8a0Vj/GtGY/xri...
In some cases
It's no more that a change of vendor (the supplier that Mitsubishi is purchasing the parts from) and the parts may well be interchangeable..
Some of the parts databases allow you to enter your vehice chassis number and filter the search results based on that, and that is the preferred approach - Mitsubishi's dealer software actually requires the chassis number before it will display anything.
Luckily I remembered to copy
Luckily I remembered to copy some chassis numbers the other day at that dealer in Oberhausen.
The reason for looking stuff up at partsouq.com in the first place is actually not that I'm looking for spares - I still didn't get around to buying a Pinin - but that I'm still trying to destroy that final .01% of uncertainty if the GDI transfer case really swaps into the MPI without much further ado. I'm still a bit scared about buying an MPI AND a transfer case, then getting nasty surprises. Especially in view of the fact that it appears to be a bit hard for sellers to get rid of their Pinins in mileage conscious Germany these days ;-)
I've seen an ad for one that has been for sale at a dealer's for over 500 days, at least if autouncle.de is to be believed. There's actually a pristine, 3-door Gen 2 pajero V6-3000 for sale, less that 90,000 km on the clock, probably never been off-roaded, for Pinin money right around the corner (which of course already has the ground clearance and the diff locks and all that as standard ;-)
partsouq might not be the most authoritative source for compatibility checks though, I think I spotted several pages where they confused the labels, like on this page:
https://partsouq.com/en/catalog/mitsubishi/part?catalog=EU&model=H76W&co...
34033 - CARRIER,RR DIFF, shouldn't that be called the 'case'?
34036 - isn't THAT the 'carrier' instead?
https://partsouq.com/en/catalog/mitsubishi/part?catalog=EU&model=H76W&co... - Why does this supposedly MPI, H76W transfer assembly have a shift lever?
And so on.
I think what I'd like best at this time is a 5-door MPI with automatic transmission, rear LSD and GDI-style transfer (with reduction), with the shorter reduction from that Gen 2 swapped in. AND shorter diffs <= which is where this project is probably getting really difficult, and where I might have to reconsider the 'automatic transmission' part of my dream iO.
Fear of corrosion is not making the search any easier either, I want a really solid base before putting in all that extra money and effort.
Yesterday I came in fact close to reconsidering the GDI option. At least then I could just swap in the OME lift and some Mike Sanders etc., then go 4FWDing a little even before hunting down the transfer swap. AND have hopefully more grunt for the taller wheels and gearing, to have lower engines speeds on the Autobahn. Undecided scaredycat these days.
Back to work.
A couple of points...
First - the 4WD options appear to vary by market - I have seen both MPI & GDI engined vehicles equipped with the "SuperSelect 4WD" - and I've never seen the AWD ( or full time 4WD) version.
Second - what OME lift are you referring to? As far as I know OME (Old Man Emu) offer nothing for these vehicles.
Clearing it up as best I can
First - the 4WD options appear to vary by market - I have seen both MPI & GDI engined vehicles equipped with the "SuperSelect 4WD" - and I've never seen the AWD ( or full time 4WD) version.
I didn't know that. The MPI has never been 'officially' imported to Germany with the SuperSelect. This increases my confidence that the swap really shouldn't be too difficult.
Second - what OME lift are you referring to? As far as I know OME (Old Man Emu) offer nothing for these vehicles.
This one:
I think it's not the only vendor where I've seen it but it's one of the cheapest ones. It contains four gas-charged KONI® shocks and four of what they call "KING SPRING®/ OME® coil springs" plus one of the most important things for any bit of tuning or customizing you intend to do to a car that is supposed to remain street legal in Germany, the "TÜV Teilegutachten" => parts certificate issued by this technical supervisory company we have. For a lift of "30- 40mm".
This is marketed in the vendor's category labelled Suspension: Lift kits OME® / PRO COMP® / H&R® / TREKFINDER®. He's obviously trying very hard to have some of the OME brand's power rub off on this kit ;-)
Note that the same guy also sells a selection of King Springs outside of a kit, which would be much cheaper,
http://www.stockundstein.com/rubriken-a-z/fahrwerk-teile-diverse/mitsubishi16/pajero-pinin4
but they don't have the "TÜV Teilegutachten" certificate. Probably few people would notice and the car might even be able to survive the mandatory, bi-annual safety inspection (although the inspectors are bound to ask themselves how the heck I got those big-ass wheels in there, if everything goes as planned) but in case of an accident, things could get hairy legal and insurance wise.
It's not cheap to have such a certificate issued for a suspension kit, so I suppose somebody at some point bit the bullet and had these "King / OME" springs TÜV certified in combination with these Koni shocks, which probably involved some kind of material certificate, manufacturing standards and the like, beside road testing. It was probably either OME or Koni, or some importer, but not this dealer, since I'm fairly certain I've seen the same kit sold elsewhere, too.
Also note where it says "Max. Umrüstgröße für Serienfelgen: 215/65 R 16 auf 6x16" in the end. This means the slightly larger-than-OEM wheel size is also part of the certificate, but if I want any taller wheels than that, or any other wheels that diameter, I'm on my own <g> meaning I'll have to convince a certified automotive safety expert that the verhicle is safe to drive with them, for which in the best of cases he has a number of criteria plus a certain margin of ahem, discretion. Or if I don't manage, I can only legally use bigger tires off-road.
The contained front shocks are actually "special McPherson inserts" you put inside the casing of the standard shocks, which need to be gutted first, I presume Koni 8640-1459.
And I might need to hurry because there is not a great market in Germany for these. Most Pinins here have been bought as second or third cars by women who like the look and size but don't do any offroading, if the nice young lady at the dealers the other day is to be believed. Or max pull a (small) horse box across the occasional damp meadow.
Claude, they should be
Claude,
they should be adjustable. Those are the only ones that I found in the product finder on the Koni website for the Pinin / iO.
http://www.koni.com/car-racing/products/offroad/
They are the Heavy Track 01 type, which are described as "simply and completely adjustable."
The only additional info says
Front axle: only for APA-KYB OEM shocks - except KYB EOM No. MR319792 & MR455401
Koni Parts Nos F: 8640-1459 R: 8040-1321
Front: Gas-charged shock absorber. Special McPherson insert, for sealed struts, bolted to the bottom after cutting the housing and removal of original inner parts. To be used in original struts only.
Rear: Gas-charged shock absorber.
Also, the stock-und-stein vendor site recommends to adjust the rear shocks by one complete, clockwise turn before installing it, in order to tune it perfectly to the different springs. For vehicles with winches, the same goes for the front shocks. (They just don't give the Koni part number there.)
Syndicate
shaft assembly
May be one for the io with a transfer case, the other for the io without transfer case or for europeen model and japaneese model ???....interesting....
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