CoilOver
Hey everyone,
I just found these. Not sure if anyone has seen them or already looked into them.
http://www.performancesuspension.com.au/xyz-coilovers?page_id=14&categor...
It looks like they make them for out iO's. What do you think?
other makes
I was looking at using some other 4wd mcpherson strut with a slip-on coilover spring.
just need to find somthing with more travel.
mazda tribute, Hyundai tucson, ford escape, nissan pathfinder, nissan x trail, toyota kluger and rav4 all use mcpherson front ends.. maybe the nissan pathfinder or the ford escape could be a good starting point.
just need a u-pull-it, a jack and a tape measure, should be easy to rip out a strut and measure up the travel and the length - even if they are longer you can always weld on the hub-mount up the shaft a bit, there is some clearance between the bottom of the strut and the CV to allow some flexiability
update: ford escape and a masda tribute are the same item - 466mm closed,668 open. an io is 424 closed 593 open, an extra 33mm travel and 42mm longer
just need to see if/how they bolt in
coil over
I am a bit lost....why do you want another strut ? is it to increase the wheel travel ? I thought that the wheel travel was very limited by the CV joint.....
If you are looking to do a coil over why not copy what Glen have done ? I have already seen a few people to have a proper coil over, the cost was...a bit too much for my use, around the $2500.
Happy io
Exactly!
I am a bit lost....why do you want another strut ? is it to increase the wheel travel ? I thought that the wheel travel was very limited by the CV joint.....
If you are looking to do a coil over why not copy what Glen have done ? I have already seen a few people to have a proper coil over, the cost was...a bit too much for my use, around the $2500.
Happy io
EXACTLY!
I want more travel and a higher riding height
Normally when you jack the front up with HD springs or with strut spacers on standard struts you are simply pushing the suspension travel equation down, the CV limits the downward travel and the strut tops out long before the CV joint limits upward travel.
Idea is to get a strut that has more travel to start with, and if it is Xmm longer then diff-drop approx the same amount so that the CV is sitting neutral.
a pair of front struts is typically about $320, far far cheaper than a set of coilovers. and if you get struts for a heavier car then the dampening will be better suited to the HD springs you run. if you can find another car with suitable struts then it is worth doing the swap.
Outlander struts are longer but the travel is the same, ford escape struts are longer and have more travel - much better starting point!
mazda struts are 44mm longer - this is a typical big lift. drop the diff by 25mm so the CV's only really experience about a 20mm lift. but the struts will compress back about 17mm MORE than an IO - this would put the CV at about the same position on full compression as it would stock. the strut can extend 17mm more so on full droop the cv will experience 37mm more than normal - this is much better than the 50mm max droop they can handle.
So the end result pending spring lengths etc is a 44mm lift, that retains the full original compression height (normally you'd loose 44mm compression straight away) and gives you about 30mm more droop than normal but exposes the CV to only a 37mm larger droop overall instead of 74mm which would break the CV
checked out one in the flesh
looks like it could be a good conversion.
there was tonnes of height from the strut mount to the tyre but this could just be the front hub.
in any case the stock tyres on the mazda are 235/70-16's (equivalent to the 225/75-16) so the struts can easily handle that mass being thrown around.
Will see if I can pick one up from U-Pull-It this week and compare to my dead struts
longer strut
If I understood.... the advantages are mainly that you don't use spacer on the top of the strut (more discreet...), full up travel (not the case with the spacer). Full down travel (not the case with longer spring and original strut)
But the droop would be similar to having a spacer at the top, and compensated with a diff drop to make sure that your CV are safe (same thing when using spacer for higher lift). No matter the set up, the maximum droop is dictated by the CV maximum angle (not taking into account any diff drop)
Similar than the strut extender + spacer, but much "cleaner" set up with more up travel.
Good idea...if I understood properly :)
Happy io
Syndicate
Just Called Them..
They do not make them for our iO's and there still developing the struts for a hilux at the moment. The guy I spoke to said I (anyone) can bring in our iO and they can have a look and see what needs to be done. I just enquired about a 50mm lift. He said they can also Put a sleave on the standard strut to accomodate coilover springs if I (we) were interested in that option..
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