How to add EXTRA button to Pinin Computer and operate without oryginal Mitsubishi CD/Casette player [thread]

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cezare_Poland
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needed elements : cost aprox 1 USD for booth. ( micro switch + on my case adiustable resistor )

 

here you have again from imageShack

how to connect : 

 

and how it looks .. 

 

and movie : https://

 

needed elements : adiustable resistor who can be fixed between 6,1 to 6,8 K ohm

and one microswitch like this one : 

 

INFORMATIONS : 

Resistance is different depends of model of You LCD / Computer

That's why i use adjustable resistor   : some ppl mentioned about 6,1k  ohm , some about 6,9k ohm ... on my case 6,8k

and implemmentation on my LCD

Grettings for UKRAINIAN Pajero IO Community .. 

 

ps. very helpfull will be this kind of glue ( thermal )

1'st - is very easy to fix by this glue our extra button on place .. 

2'nt - do not forget to fix resistor position by this glue ;)

 

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what other items are needed?

We only have the standard clock item here in Australia,

what other items are needed to run this trip meter / range / fuel economy functions? is there a stand-alone CPU unit that drives it or is it all off the ECU?

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let me chceck this issue with

let me chceck this issue with other users here in PL, and i'll  back to You with correct answer.

here we have only engine versions 1,8MPI 1,8GDI and 2.0GDI

Normally  all of our cars are eqiped with OBDII diagnostic interface and by this interface we are abble to read fuel consumption value

and this is provided by ECU.. 

as you see on W142 Mitsubishi CD Player we have DISP button - and this button can only change the computer/Display values

that is mean NO Oryginal CD = no acces to this data.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35mvkkM33jM&feature=youtu.be here you can see the same mod based on this thread realized by one Pajeo Pinin user from Turkey, as you see he have no CD but old one casette player BUT with DISP Button..

i have no idea which kind of ENgine and ECU you have in Australia ;((( soory .. 

ps. Your Australian Version of Pinin / IO have no this button on CD player or Casette player ? 

 

regards

(pk)

 

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No button

We have no button and the screen is just a clock - totally different unit. No idea on ecu compatibility as we have 1.6, 1.8, 2.0 all MPI, no GDI at all.

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Now that's something I wouldn't mind adding...

Although I must admit - the 1.8 GDI I have is definitely not OBDII compliant., and I have no idea if my original CD player has a DISP button, because all the button legends are in Japanese (kanjii I believe)

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Hi, what a great mod. I did

Hi, what a great mod.

I did this tonight and it worked as described.

However there is one function that the [display] button on the W142 missing, and that is the reset option. When mileage is selected you could reset the value to 0 by holding the display button.

But on the new button this does not work.

 

Does anyone have a solution for this.

Regards.

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HI, Pleasu use 1'st button

HI, 

Pleasu use 1'st button from left side - this undescribed...  ( hold him until you hear short "beep" sound )

Let me know about the results ;). 

ps. i chcecked with PL Community about 1.8MPI display this values too = noy only GDI have this function

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Hello i do the mod ...and i

Hello i do the mod ...and i add the buton ...but the indication of fuel autonomy wriht three ---    ....  i need a  arrangement???

 the other two indication are OK ....

any idea ????

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Yes - you must start driving

Yes - you must start driving ... cause the display show You  "how many gasoline You burn for 100km" .. so if you reset the counter .. you can see only few dot's. 

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Remove

How do we remove the unit from the dash?

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Why simpify when it is simpler to complicate.

 

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Removal

The one just on the top of the heating control or the one under the small hood on the top of the dash ?

Happy io

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Instrument binnacle.

Claude io wrote:

The one just on the top of the heating control or the one under the small hood on the top of the dash ?

Happy io

The one under the small hood on the top of the dash please Claude.heart

 

And the other one might be useful to know please!!wink

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removal of ....

We only have the clock under the top hood on the top of the dash, but it is probably the same. To remove the top hood, use your fist to gently push up on the upper section of the hood, it will unclips. Once the hood is removed they are some metal "L" shape bracket with a couple of screw on the side.

For the front panel, hold the silver trim section with both hand just under the both vent, then pull, it will unclips. Once you have that section out, the stereo is only holding with 2 screw on each side.

Please, no screw driver ! In Europe, plenty of car, like the Citroen, have very weak annoying clips to hold different plastic trim; these are pretty good and don't break that easily. 

Happy io

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Sounds nice and straightforward

Claude io wrote:

We only have the clock under the top hood on the top of the dash, but it is probably the same. To remove the top hood, use your fist to gently push up on the upper section of the hood, it will unclips. Once the hood is removed they are some metal "L" shape bracket with a couple of screw on the side.

For the front panel, hold the silver trim section with both hand just under the both vent, then pull, it will unclips. Once you have that section out, the stereo is only holding with 2 screw on each side.

Please, no screw driver ! In Europe, plenty of car, like the Citroen, have very weak annoying clips to hold different plastic trim; these are pretty good and don't break that easily. 

Happy io

Thanks Claude - will get around to it soon once I have the axle leak sorted.

 

Thanks for mentioning no screwdriver, I hate it when I have to lever it with a screwdriver.

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here you can see what they

here you can see what they talking about 

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Poppers

More like poppers than clips then.wink

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Something else also

Claude io wrote:
To remove the top hood, use your fist to gently push up on the upper section of the hood, it will unclip. 

 

I tried that but there is one clip that feels more like there is a screw.  It won't shift and any more pressure will break it.

 

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helijohn wrote:

Claude io wrote:
To remove the top hood, use your fist to gently push up on the upper section of the hood, it will unclip. 

 

I tried that but there is one clip that feels more like there is a screw.  It won't shift and any more pressure will break it.

 

Once you push up the front, the front side will pop out, then do the rear, then slide the all lot toward the windscreen this last step will have that section coming out. No srew, and please don't brake it :)

Happy io

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Again

Claude io wrote:
slide the all lot toward the windscreen this last step will have that section coming out. No srew, and please don't brake it :)

Happy io

 

Thanks, I'll try again.wink

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depends of climate - is good

depends of climate - is good to turn on heater to max for a while ... to make every plastic element soft

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cause the photos are miss

thread updated - with no any know reason previous photos are miss

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Resistance

I have found the potentiometers on eBay and I assume we need 0-10kohm pots for this application.Which if any of these will be ideal?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10X-10-Pack-6mm-Horizontal-Pot-Variable-Cermet...

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10X-6mm-10k-ohm-Horizontal-Pot-Variable-Cermet...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5pcs-WTH118-1A-2W-Potentiometer-6-8K-Ohm-/1606...

I assume that if set to zero this will have no advewrse effects.  Did you set the resistance with a meter or guesswork?

 

As for the switches do we need momentry tactile types like these?  Was there a shaft size in particular?? How long does the button need to be?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tactile-Switch-6x6x5-5mm-Momentary-Push-Button...

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1PC-1000PC-Momentary-SPST-Tactile-Push-Button-...

 

Thanks

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 assume that if set to zero

 assume that if set to zero this will have no advewrse effects.  

yes.

 

Did you set the resistance with a meter or guesswork?

guess work + the meter .. i mean -  i fix it on 6,1 k ohm then i try to connect .. without soldering .. then 6,2 etc etc .. at mine Pinin tat start works at 6,8..

As for the switches do we need momentry tactile types like these?  Was there a shaft size in particular?? How long does the button need to be?

type is okay .. button should be longer then basic type.. as i know they produce three types of button lengh .. so this is this middle one .. aprox 0,5cm ? but  i try to guess now correct answer.. i not remember ;) .. 

from your second ebay link - for sure - you need this small type .. and for sure will be fit second and thrid one from second row ( when i count them from left to right )

 

I have found the potentiometers on eBay and I assume we need 0-10kohm pots for this application.Which if any of these will be ideal?

honestly - i go to the electronics store and i ask them about this - they give me this resistor and that's all . 

i ask about resistor who can be adiustable from 6 to 7 k ohm .. 

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Thanks

cezare_Poland wrote:

 How long does the button need to be?

type is okay .. button should be longer then basic type.. as i know they produce three types of button lengh .. so this is this middle one .. aprox 0,5cm ? but  i try to guess now correct answer.. i not remember ;) .. 

from your second ebay link - for sure - you need this small type .. and for sure will be fit second and thrid one from second row ( when i count them from left to right )

Many thanks.

I chose the 7mm tactile switch and 0-10kohm pot. 

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;)

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Many thanks

small thing, my pleasure  - today i must demount this device again - cold solder issue's on LCD Display. so i make better thread with photos from the process of disassembly.. casue if You have the question = thread isn't good enough ... ( my fault ) .. 

cheers from Poland !.. 

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Wahay

Today the cowling just came off no sweat.  The clip that would not shift was the first clip off!!  Go figure!!surprise

I think it is best to pull up the cowling at the front (windscreen ) first; the clips do come away fairly easily.

So now I am waiting for the electronic bits to arrive so I can do the electrical connections.

Where did you go to for the earth; did you use one of the four retaining bolts?

How did you make the hole for the tactile switch?

 

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Watching

cezare_Poland wrote:
today i must demount this device again - cold solder issue's on LCD Display. so i make better thread

 

Any luck with this yet??

 

I have had the components arrive but not had the time to tinker./

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At last

Right, I have had a go at this - see here

http://www.pajerio.com/forum/how-i-added-my-extra-dsp-button-so-i-can-fit-my-own-usb-radio

It seems not to work.sad

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Hi, I wonder if someone has

Hi,
I wonder if someone has the pics from imageshack? The whole desription of this mod would be great.
Thanks
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Is this "it" for my 4WD

Hega wrote:
Hi, I wonder if someone has the pics from imageshack? The whole desription of this mod would be great. Thanks \H

 

Is this not any use.

http://www.pajerio.com/forum/how-i-added-my-extra-dsp-button-so-i-can-fit-my-own-usb-radio

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I m sori to buder you but tha linc wer ta foto wi

cezare_Poland wrote:

 

 

needed elements : cost aprox 1 USD for booth. ( micro switch + on my case adiustable resistor )

 

here you have again from imageShack

how to connect : 

 

and how it looks .. 

 

and movie : https://

 

needed elements : adiustable resistor who can be fixed between 6,1 to 6,8 K ohm

and one microswitch like this one : 

 

INFORMATIONS : 

Resistance is different depends of model of You LCD / Computer

That's why i use adjustable resistor   : some ppl mentioned about 6,1k  ohm , some about 6,9k ohm ... on my case 6,8k

and implemmentation on my LCD

Grettings for UKRAINIAN Pajero IO Community .. 

 

ps. very helpfull will be this kind of glue ( thermal )

1'st - is very easy to fix by this glue our extra button on place .. 

2'nt - do not forget to fix resistor position by this glue ;)

 

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Viola

Viola

http://oi63.tinypic.com/2el5nvd.jpg

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tank you veri much

tank you veri much

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Your welcome my frend, and

Your welcome my frend, and many thank's for our admin, who delete my empty posts - thank You .. 

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Hello friend, photo link is

Hello friend, photo link is expired, can you please reupload as I want to make this on my pinin Thanks in advance :)

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Has anyone manged to get this

Did anyone get this working and know were to wire the button and resistor to please as i'd love to do this smiley

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https://photos.app.goo.gl/quq

https://photos.app.goo.gl/quqZ9zbykrpVvwZv6

 

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I'm going to upload the image to the Pajeroio server...

Hopefully, there will be no more broken links.

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Thank you community, happy to

Thank you community, happy to see pinin lovers here :D

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Cheers. Just to make sure i

Cheers.

Just to make sure i have this correct i run a wire from that pin to the resistor then to the switch and then earth?

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That's great, just replaced

That's great, just replaced my defunct colour sat nav display for the LCD unit.
Can now do the mod.
Thanks.

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I've ordered the necessary

I've ordered the necessary hardware, however rather than modify the LCD unit itself, could possibly the same be achieved by earthing via resistor/switch one of the spare wires in the multiplug that is now redundant following removal of the Oem head unit?
After all, it is through this multiplug the 'disp' signal originally came from.

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answer

double d wrote:

Cheers.

Just to make sure i have this correct i run a wire from that pin to the resistor then to the switch and then earth?

 

yes, perfect !

 

Dear FORDEM - thank You for Your kindly support 

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Thanks for the info Ceazre

Thanks for the info Ceazre poland , it worked a treat yes

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Worked great for me as per

Worked great for me as per description.
Fiddly fitting the extra switch, make sure you don't get carried away with the glue. First attempt ended up sticking the button so had to replace, second attempt okay but had to trim the glue so the LCD screen fitted back correctly.
Worth it all in the end.
Worthwhile modification for sure.

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