KYB Front shock

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GO-R
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Hey everyone,

Quick question, does anyone know if upgrading to the new model KYB shock will put you front cv on more of an angle, or is the full length of the shock the same as the old stock one?

My reason for asking is I have front 50mm spacers for my car, that also has the new KYB shock.

On a similar note I need either need a front diff or new cv's. :(

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1999 Pajero iO named Rex

245/75R16 Trail Digger, 2" KYB and King Spring Lift, 50mm Front Shock Spacers, 25mm Diff Drop Spacers, 50mm Rear Spring Spacers, Rear Hilux Shocks, Upgraded Pan Hard Rod, Bull Bar, Roof Racks and Winch.

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The measurements are in the strut data thread

The lengths of the struts are the same, the position of the spring chair is what changes - if the strut with the "higher" seat is used with the springs for the "lower" seat struts, it lifts the vehicle so the CVs run at a steeper angle - having said that - maximum extension is unchanged, so CV angle at maximum droop does't change.

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agree 100%

fordem wrote:

The lengths of the struts are the same, the position of the spring chair is what changes - if the strut with the "higher" seat is used with the springs for the "lower" seat struts, it lifts the vehicle so the CVs run at a steeper angle - having said that - maximum extension is unchanged, so CV angle at maximum droop does't change.

Agree 100% - new vs old struts make no difference to droop or compression lengths - running your CV's with a steeper angle will wear them out faster - most suspension setups come from factory with the CV's on approx a 5degree angle from horizontal. In saying this may people run io's with big lifts BUT modifying the suspension so that it has 50mm more droop WILL put the CV's very close to the max angle they can handle - if you want to go beyond this, or keep your CV's friendly with you, you need to lower the front diferential with spacers - this lowers EVERYTHING in the front i.e. steering/engine etc etc etc - you'd really need to get an engineering cert for leagal road use after that size mod.

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cv

I think that you are using the wheels from Singlecell, with 50 mm spacer and new strut with old spring, that is around at least 70 mm of lift.

The bigger the tyres, the bigger the lift, the more stress you put on the CV (and other parts). Now if your CV were already "border line" by just being old (more than likely), the lift and the tyres just finished them quicker. Just fit new CV and see how it goes...it might be fine. If it isn't, your new CV will get worn out quickly....

I wouldn't get a reconditioned CV, they are ok on "normal" little sedan, but not the best on 4x4. My experience anyway, with an old Subaru.

I got told that the diff are pretty strong, it should handle these tyres. But I am not an engineer....

Happy io

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Thanks for your response

Thanks for your response guys, like normal very helpful!

 

I am running new shocks with new King Springs.

 

I anyone able to tell me the best place to get new CV's? I have taken the front spacers out for now until I confirm that it is them that caused the problem.  Once I have confirmed it is them, I will either take 10mm off them or do a 20mm diff drop.

 

Cheers

GOR

1999 Pajero iO named Rex

245/75R16 Trail Digger, 2" KYB and King Spring Lift, 50mm Front Shock Spacers, 25mm Diff Drop Spacers, 50mm Rear Spring Spacers, Rear Hilux Shocks, Upgraded Pan Hard Rod, Bull Bar, Roof Racks and Winch.

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CV

I recently replaced mine, complete RHF drive shaft, I got it from from Mitsubishi....close to $700. I replaced the diff seal too ($20)

If you have spacer of 50 mm and the new kingspring, that still should be around 70 mm lift. You idea to lower your car or have a diff drop seems to be a good idea.

Happy io

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cv -

GO-R wrote:

Thanks for your response guys, like normal very helpful!

 

I am running new shocks with new King Springs.

 

I anyone able to tell me the best place to get new CV's? I have taken the front spacers out for now until I confirm that it is them that caused the problem.  Once I have confirmed it is them, I will either take 10mm off them or do a 20mm diff drop.

 

Cheers

GOR

 

call a "CV" repair center - they can often mix/match CV's from various makes to make a stronger set.

Ebay the mitsu part NO - "FEBEST" in USA make great cheap ball joints and CV's

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Thanks guys,   I am looking

Thanks guys,

 

I am looking into it now.

 

By the way, thank you BOB_OZ for the bash plate drawing.  It was a plesent suprise to come home to after been on holidays.

 

Cheers

GOR

1999 Pajero iO named Rex

245/75R16 Trail Digger, 2" KYB and King Spring Lift, 50mm Front Shock Spacers, 25mm Diff Drop Spacers, 50mm Rear Spring Spacers, Rear Hilux Shocks, Upgraded Pan Hard Rod, Bull Bar, Roof Racks and Winch.

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What is this in 2nd and last pic?

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I see a front strut.

I see a front strut, complete with coil spring - but what I suspect you're asking about is the torn/damaged strut boot/bump stop - the Pajero iO uses a rubber boot to protect the strut shaft, and the design of the boot it uses has the bump stop built in to it.

 

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so seeing that those bump

so seeing that those bump stops is shot, what can i do if i can't find replacement parts? Can i fit polyutherine sleeves to do the same job? Like the Yellow ones?

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My preference would be rubber

I'm not certain I would want to use a polyurethane sleeve - poly comes in different hardnesses and some has, so to speak, about as much flexibility as steel - have you ever seen poly coil spring spacers used to lift a vehicle?

Generic shock boots with bump stops should be readily available - a least they are in my neck of the woods - what you need to recognize is that these are not just sleeves, they are shaped to provide progessive "cushioning" - it is possible to make bump stops from polyurethane  but they need to be correctly designed.

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Thanks Fordem I will

Thanks Fordem

I will certainly use some king of rubber. I will check my local spares shop for somthing simular as oem stuff

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Hey Sweis! I grabbed mine

Hey Sweis! I grabbed mine from here..

Mine needed replacing when I re-did the struts. They just corroded and fell apart.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mitsubishi-Pajero-io-2-0-ATV-4WD-FRONT-Protec...

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Thanks Worldomai8 I will use

Thanks Worldomai8

I will use the kyb part no and see if i can source them with the same supplier where i bought my KYB shocks locally!

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