Rear Suspension Bushes
Thanks Claude
The bushes are not that easy to check - especially the "body side" ones, which are located "deep" between the flanges.
I had gotten accustomed to a certain amount of "bump & thump" and was just ignoring it since most of it came from the front end, so having sorted the front suspension, I decided to deal with it, and when a light knock on moving off that I had suspected was the fire extinguisher shifting in the rear under floor storage, turned out not to be the extinguisher, I took a closer look at the rear suspension.
A little prying showed movement in the axle end bushes of the upper links, which is what I was originally trying to locate, and it was not until I completely removed the link that I discovered the body end bush of the same link was actually in worse condition - I've since also removed the lower link and examined that.
A quick way to check the bushes is to jack the rear of the car up and place axle stands under the axle - chock the front wheels and pull the hand brake up, and then take a breaker bar with a socket to match your lug nuts (21mm I think) and place it on the top lug nut so that the bar is vertical - now rock the bar forward & backward so that it forces the axle against the bushes - when I did that, not only did I get movement, but I was also able to replicate a soft creaking sound that had been puzzling me for months - it was only audible with the windows up, and moving very slowly over a surface that would "cycle" the rear suspension - it's actually caused by the axle twisting the body end bush in the upper link.
At this point the car is back togther and still useable, but I wouldn't plan on any long excursions with it - and hopefully I'll have replacement bushes in a week or two,
Mine are trashed and im
Mine are trashed and im getting a sharp metal on metal BANG whenever it gets a hard time.
Im planing on swapping mine out with some pillow balls or something to allow more articulation with the suspension mods I have planned. The stock rubbers limit the articulation almost exactly to the stock shocks limit of travel.
how you go replacing yours?
No luck yet.
One of the local places says they can get them, but as mentioned earlier, the last bush for this car they were to get me, they never did.
I had asked a question similar to this on a US forum (not iO related) and a member pointed me to these, which appear to be nylon, but may be replaceable with rubber.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-Forged-Steel-4-Bar-Rod-Ends-5-8-18-RH-Thread,25122.html
thanks for the info. i am
thanks for the info. i am experiencing a clunking sound every time i hit a bump. i was thikning it was the exhaust pipe bracket which i got replced but still drove and still having the clunking sound. will check the bushings then.
thanks.
Ako
Link bushes
Heya, yes i have replaced link bushes. one bush on tmine was buggered when i bought it. Bought genuine at the time. Cant remember how much, but not that dear. Mite have been $30ish a piece. Check out alibaba.com too. They make heaps of replacement parts for Io's. Think i saw those bushes. You may be able to get a small quantity if you ask nicely :) Bought a couple of items through a supplier.
I WOULD NOT but Nolathane or equiv in. Recently put in Nolathane diff bushes. Pulled them out after two days. No compliance whatsoever. Noisy, felt every vibration...Buy geniune of oem
Finding OEM has proven quite difficult
The problem with Alibaba is that Alibaba is a marketing organisation accessible to just about every Tom, Dick & Harry in China, and product quality is not guaranteed. I've had bad experiences with Chinese product of unknown origin, so if I can't identify the manufacturer, I'm not buying.
If I could find OEM, I would use it, but that has been challenging, I did find "pattern replacements" for the more critical one on ebay UK, and for the other I used cut down Land Rover spring eye bushes, so we're good for now.
Nolothane is a manufacturer of polyurethane bushes, I haven't used their product, but I've used other brands - poly bushes are a very popular suspension upgrade for road/track cars, it is available in different hardnesses (or shore) and I would not rule out it's use off road, provided it is correctly chosen.
I do have poly bushes on both my Suzukis
Link bushes
Heya again. Is there a Mitsubishi dealer near you? I bought through them. Mitve been a day it two but weren't terribly expensive over the life of vehicle cost. Sorry prob bit harsh on nolathane parts. I just noticed straight away how hard and noisily the car rode thats all. I agree it's a bit of a risk buying from Alibaba. I will only pay via Paypal. But when genuine fog lamps are $1500 a pair, and oem replacements are $50 each, I was happy to take a chance. They were one of the good companies to deal with. The lamps arent bad either.
Cheers, Ben
My front and rear bush arms
My front and rear bush arms need replacing, Mechanic has found parts,( I will find out where -I think Lismore or Casino NSW)
$185 for 4. + $65 (which includes fitting and my pink slip.)
Getting through rego this year has been expensive 1 x rear tyre (punctured by sharp rock was near bald) $100
rear after market exhaust $140 1 x rear tail light $110 +$33 delivery.
lower arm bush
I just went for a drive in the hills close by (Corin Forest) and after a bit of fun on a very steep hill, I got a noise at the rear...lower arm bush (body side) are worn out.
I will try Mitsubishi on Monday to buy them, if they are not too expensive I will replace the 4 bushes from the upper and lower arm. One inner CV start to make some noise too....
Happy io
Pajero io rear diff bushes
I have ordered all of them. Cost from Mitsubishi $260 for the 8 bushes. With a bit of luck they will have them all. I was going to replace the faulty one only, then decided to replace them all, chances are that the other are on the way out anyway....
Happy io
rear trailing arm bushes
I just got all the bushes from Mitsubishi, I will replace the lower arm bushes one first, to have the car ready for this week end, and I will do the upper arm next week.
The parts reference are, for the lower arm MR418807 for the body side and MR223792 for the diff side. For the upper arm MR353951 and MR510327 ( I will edit to confirm the side)
Total cost for the parts is $260 for the 8 bushes, I am sure that you can find cheaper, but I couldn't drive the way it was and I really wanted the car ready for this week-end...and it will be :)
Happy io
MR223792
The MR223792 cost me a pack of beer. Yes it does look too small that what it should be, but it does fit. I was a bit concern and I went back to Mitsubishi to explain what looked to be a problem. He took it in the workshop, came back fitted. You just need to press it out and in with a tube that have a reasonable wall thickness to not cut the bush (or place a suitable washer between). If it doesn't cut the old one, you should be fine.
So 100% sure that while it look too small, it does fit.
Happy io
bushes
Hi Glen
Go to the wrecking yard at 17 Graham Court in Hoppers Crossing and get the complete rod instead of hunting new bushes, call Peter 0478041580, he has been a lot more helpful this time for me !! Good luck.
I wouldn't advice to get the brake pads out of this yard but if you are stuck that could be an option too.
By the way, I will get my parts...today....
Happy io
I'm working on changing mine
I'm working on changing mine as well for my '99 I/O. I found when there's too much weight in the back, I would hear a dull thumping sound whenever I went over a bump or dropped into a ditch. Thought it was the springs and struts at first.
Luckily, I found a store here in Antigua that sells them at a fairly reasonable price - approx $50 EC ($18.50 USD) each. Online, for me to order and ship them here, would amount to almost the same, if not more. And the authorised dealer for Mitsubishi parts is selling them a lot more expensive.
Will let you guys know the difference after I change them out.
Bump
I've noticed mine doing the same when loaded and going over big bumps.
I assumed it was the bump stops bottoming out as they are supposed to. I have newish shocks and Mazda astina springs in the rear, but I had a full load of camping gear plus a canoe on the roof when it happened a few times on my last trip.
The noise was more of a dull thud (rubber on metal), not a clunk or clang like metal on metal, so I didn't worry too much about it.
warning - rear bushes
..after looking at the movement in BENC's io on the rear bushes and also noticing the rear output on the transfer box was leaking I recon there is a real risk to prematurely wearing out the lip seal on the transfer if you have too much movement in the rear bushes...
Another supplier
Another good supplier for these spare parts if you don't have access to OEM parts is Kowze autoparts, they has many Mitsubishi spares with good quality, is possible to contact them through Aliexpress (sending a private message containing the part numbers you need, they will respond if the part is in stock and the price for that part)
Syndicate
Awfully quiet in here ...
99 views and not a single reply - I guess I have one of the older vehicles, so you guys with newer cars haven't run into this yet - I've checked ebay in the UK & Australia - lots of front bushes, but none for the rear, and by the way, ignore the Powerflex auctions that say they fit the iO, they have no clue what they are about.
I took one of the upper links off last Friday and checked a few local places, no joy, although one shop did say they could order them - the last time they were to order bushes for me (front sway bar), I waited about eight weeks before giving up and sourcing them elsewhere, so I'm giving them another shot - if all else fails I'm considering custom links with Currie enterprises "Johnny Joints".