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hank
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Hi,

 

Can anyone tell me if a 215 by 65 by16 Insa Turbo Dakar 98Q will fit a mitsubishi pinin without rubing of the bottom pan of the shocker

 

 

Many thanks,

 

 

Paul

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215/65R16 is the OE size for Australia

Any 215/65R16 tire should fit just fine.

hank
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hi mate, thanks for the

hi mate, thanks for the reply, here's a picture of them.. The garage i went too said they wouldn't fit them as they would rub and make the front higher than the back. Said I would need atleast all 4 but even then he doesn't think they'll fit even though they're the same sizes (numbers) as the standard ones I have on.

 

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You can hope that someone else has tried that tyre in that size

and can definitively say it fits or it doesn't, but, personally I would not hesitate to fit any brand of 215/65R16 tyre on the stock Mitsubishi rims.

There are two different struts used on the iO, and I have no idea which one your car currently has fitted, but, for the sake of discussion, let's assume it's the one with the lower pan (the one that sits closer to the tyres) - there is sufficient clearance for most 215/70R16 tyres, which is the OE size used in Japan.

Just so that you understand what I'm saying here - there is sufficient clearance for a 215/70R16 tyre, which is almost an inch taller than a 215/65R16 tyre - I'm running 215/70R16 tyres with an AT tread pattern with these struts.  If your vehicle has the strut with the higher pan, then you will have clearance for a taller tyre - I believe you can go to a 225/70 or 75 tyre with that strut.

Now - I have a question for you - how exactly - if you put the same tyre on the front and back of the car, do you suddenly get the front higher than the back?  If the tyre is going to lift the car, and I don't see it lifting the car by more than half an inch, it will lift the front by the same amount that it will lift the back.

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Ok, that clears things up a

Ok, that clears things up a bit. 

Basically, I've only bought two of these tyres. At the moment I have the standard tread on all tyres. I wanted to replace the two tyres at the front with these new ones and then replace the back at the end of the month. So I basically wanted the two new bigger tread tyres on the front and the back to have the standard tread but the guy at the garage said it would be too much lift on the front compared to the back? 

I haven't been able to test how much it lifts the front as they wouldn't put them on for me to see. Is it a problem to have the front a little higher than the back until I can get another pair for the back?

Thanks for your replies so far!

fordem
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Just don't put it in 4WD

and you'll be fine.

It's not a good idea to have different size tyres front & rear on a 4WD vehicle (and technically speaking, you don't have different sized tyres - just different tread patterns), but, you'll be fine if you're not actually using the 4WD.

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I've taken a closer look at the Insa tyres

and realised that they are remoulds which have a tendency to be larger than a new tyre of the same nominal size, but, as I mentioned earlier, you can fit most 215/70R16 tyres in there with no problems, so I still see no reason why a 215/65R16 remould should be an issue.

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tyres (struts)

if you have old (pre 99) low pan struts or are in anywhere else in the world other than australia then you can come across some 215/65-16's that may rub especially mud tyres.

otherwise for the post 99 high-pan struts 225/75-16 fit but rub the chassis on full lock unless you have at a minimum 16x6.5"-38 rims (16x6"-46 is stock)

Tyre shops do not like fitting mixed tyres on vehicles, opens up a can of worms from a liability perspective.

see below the pre and post 99' struts

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Hi, I'm thinking to change my

Hi, I'm thinking to change my tires by oversized one (vs OEM size...) but by checking with my worn Toyo OpenCountry AT2, I have no less than 1 inch of clearence with the spring support of the front shock absorber....

Could you give mesurment of your shock absorber (distance from fixation of wheel hub to spring flange) to counter check mine?

Thanks.

Pajerio Pinin 1.8GDI short - Lift +30 (kingspring spring+ KONI shock absorber) -> under perpetual development....

 

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R_NO - Search for the "strut data" thread - in it you will find pictures of the two KYB struts that fit the vehicle with the measurements you are asking about.

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6 or 7"

From memory itnis 6" and 7" from pan weld to top of hub mount.

If you have 1" clearance you have european struts - change to kyb 334405 struts from late model australian ios

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BOB_OZ, FORDEM, thank you,

BOB_OZ, FORDEM, thank you, very helpfull.... 

 

Pajerio Pinin 1.8GDI short - Lift +30 (kingspring spring+ KONI shock absorber) -> under perpetual development....

 

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