Ebs's io
Looks nice with the lift and
Looks nice with the lift and tires! I see what you mean with the lack of droop, looks like it would have almost nothing left with those springs in! How much lift do you have again? STD brake lines handle that much Lift OK I assume?
Did you get to compare the off road performance difference between the std susp and the dobsions? The extra lift for bigger tires im sure helps, but as you were saying in another post, the reduction in articulation may reduce performance?
I love the sub tropical bush up that way, We defiantly have to have a Pajerio meet up that way some time!
Did you want to keep the pics as attachments only? (for the privacy of attachments been ONLY viable by site members) or are you happy to embed them in the thread also?
I was going to post one to comment on but I thought I better check with you first 
On the off chance your not sure how to post them so they display I have a tutorial here too http://www.pajerio.com/forum/how-attach-images-post
Yeah put the front springs in
Yeah put the front springs in myself with my little brothers help only had a cheap pair of spring compressors too, it was a bit sus but got there in the end, brake lines are fine, it was a 35mm dobinson lift but almost lited in 2" which i was very pleased about! :)
The car feels great with some weight in it, they are pretty hard in the front but overall its worth having the extra lift so im not bashing the front guard every ten seconds in the bush.
I think with the extra mods im planning it will add some more weight and will settle down, the struts bottom out upwards a fair bit especially cause the roads over here are so bad and in corragations n stuff. Makes it look like a little beast so im happy!
The only problem i have come
The only problem i have come across with dobinsons is ive had to replace the front inside right CV boot, might have just been a bit worn but the lift is probably the reason it came apart, the left side is on a much less angle so is ok, ill keep an eye on the new one and see how it goes.
Wheel to arch of STD iO is 42cm - 43cm
Finally got onto it today, passenger side was lower than drivers side. either weight jack, weight distribution, uneven springs or the slight angle of the carpark i was in?
42 - 43cm for std, this is a 120,000 old iO, seems to have had an easy life to, I dont know if anyone else has more say in theres? OH I also have a TJM bar on the front, this probably adds enough weight to make it measurable.
Seems like you have quite a lift 
Dude, your lifted almost as
Dude, your lifted almost as much as Piniokio! his is 520mm, thats 100mmlift over mine, I must be sagging!
http://www.pajerio.com/forum/front-coilover-suspension-design#comment-34
Looking good man, ive got the
Looking good man, ive got the same io as you im pretty sure, even the same colour.
I think im gonna get some dobinson springs the same as you, 35mm? how much did they cost? also what tyre size do you now run? from what ive read 29" is the go after this lift? to save money i want to keep the original rims plus they look good as they are, what have you done?
KYB struts
Did you find the springs to be alot stiffer than the stock ones? I fitted some kyb struts & doninson springs on the weekend. I think most of the lift has come from the new springs being much much stiffer
can you confirm if the spring seat is higher on the KYB than the standard struts?
KYB vs STD Strut spring seats
Did you find the springs to be alot stiffer than the stock ones? I fitted some kyb struts & doninson springs on the weekend. I think most of the lift has come from the new springs being much much stiffer
can you confirm if the spring seat is higher on the KYB than the standard struts?
Hey bob, you should remember these pics from here http://forums.overlander.com.au/viewtopic.php?p=1024862&sid=df4b83f7b53d...
Or are you checking to make sure there still the same?
Original Struts
KYB Struts, Same Tyres.
just confirming
can you confirm if the spring seat is higher on the KYB than the standard struts?
Hey bob, you should remember these pics from here http://forums.overlander.com.au/viewtopic.php?p=1024862&sid=df4b83f7b53d...
Or are you checking to make sure there still the same?
As much as i'd love to trust people online i've seen as much evidence fore as against the magical kyb 25mm spring seat higher suspension lift. just wanting to confirm beofre i shell out $500+ for struts that i could make with koni's for about the same price
Wow
Wow great job!
Must have saved you a fortune by doing it yourself.
I see that intake on the snorkel is facing backwards. Any specific reason why? I would think a forward facing intake will at speed cause a RAM intake effect and a rear facing would cause a vacuum or venturi effect?
Great job once again. Its really neatly done.
Jaco
iO snorkel build
Just need to cap off the existing intake hole and will be finished! no more water in my airbox!!
Materials i used:
a) 76mm ID aluminium pipe, 3 cuts around $40 aus for the lot including cutting
b) 3x silicone or rubber elbows 2x45degree and 1x90degree ($60)
c) 8x 70-90mm stainless hose clamps $5ea
d) bit of flexi piping (not necesarry as you can just have the alloy tube go straight into the airbox, i just drilled a crooked as hell hole in the airbox by accident. :p
e) Some small rubber tubing to glue around the cut hole (inside and out)
f) Thats about it... just some silicone to seal up the airbox, a couple of custom brackets to keep it in place and some rustguard paint for the bare cut metal.
Tools used:
a) 79mm hole saw (could have probably used a slightly larger one for the outside as i had to file it a fair bit to get the elbow to fit)
b) pop rivets (for brackets)
c) hack saw (used to cut the inside panel as the hole saw wont go the whole way through)
Tips:
a) leave the airbox hole till last! u will need to cut one of the support arms off also.
b) paint all cut surfaces with rustguard or something similar, file and smooth off all metal and alloy bits
c) when cutting the inside hole leave at least one spot weld on the metal connected to the chassis, u will know what i mean when u take your outside panel off
d) use boiling water to loosen up any rubber elbows to enable them to fit better
Hope that helps, it is a much cheaper option and at least you can learn from my mistakes.
Ill take some pics of some iO action when i take my beast out next!
Hey jaco, sorry for the late
Hey jaco, sorry for the late reply, i am currently on the lookout for a forwards facing ram intake that will suit the degree of the pipe, ive seen a couple around that would suit. The silicone bit at the top is just a temporary fix for now, i still need to cover the existing airbox hole and then i will know how it handles at 80-100kmh. I dont think it will be too much of an issue for a temporary fix, i think its more of a problem for carby engines but ill let you know how it goes, worst case scenario is i use a bit more fuel... thanks for your feedback bro, im pretty happy with it :)
Looks like your Dobinsons
Looks like your Dobinsons springs raised yours about as much as mine did.
For me, it just mean the struts constantly maxed out. Luckily for me I live in Rockhampton where the dobinsons springs are made, its going back in thursday to be re-set.
Dobinsons confirmed the springs are not meant to raise the car 2 inches, and agreed the struts were fully maxed out. I just don't think they have had much feed back, and therefore have never known how high they actually raise them :/
Hi bro, ive already taken
Hi bro, ive already taken them out for this reason and am rolling on stockies atm, there just sitting in my shed. i dont think ill put them back on, hopefully i will get a lift by strut spacers and a diff drop at the front. :) i need something because last time i took the car offroading i was bashing on everything!! You have a very neat iO there mate!! good luck with the mods!
you pretty much summed it up
you pretty much summed it up already, the shock is extended upwards as much as possible and it could possibly rip the top out of the shock, it is a very unsafe setup and will not pass rego if inspected properly. its a bit of a bummer but there are other ways to make the setup better... ie coilovers or strut spacers with a diff drop for the front.
Snorkel
Wow - that snorkel is magic!
What was the bracing inside the inner guard like? do you think there would be space for a flexiable hose to run inside the guard?
Have you noticed any power drop due to the extended intake?
I'm seriously thinking about doing this when I get home
Hello there, well if you use
Hello there, well if you use a strut spacer for the front to lift the car you allow the shock to extend further than it is intended to downwards, this can be a problem because the CV angles are increased which can put excessive force on some components, glen reckons a 50mm spacer isnt a problem, all i mean is that dropping the front diff say 50mm with a strut spacer of 50mm will bring the shock travel back to stock, the body of the car will be higher but the front diff will be exactly the same height off the ground, hope that helps. it would be a much safer option, i would be cautious to only use the strut spacer and would test the angles thouroughly before shredding my CV's offroad. might be okay though. :)
Dropping diff
Hello,
First, thanks for your time...I haven't have much success before (for advices) even if you are paying!!
I got it! Thanks, make sense now. I am having great fun with all these info but before I go ahead I want to understand as more as I can! and have a good plan for the lot. My car have received the "visit" of a large roo on the right side during the week-end and it is getting repair. So no car/fishing for 2 weeks...
I replaced the tyre when I bouth the car with some yokohama geolander M/S, I was advised that they were good all around... they are good on the road but got me stack a few time off road (I don't think that the "s" stand for snow now!). I have seen an article from a forum in Greece, and they advised the BF Goodrich all terrain T/A KO design. To all the reader, they are a few dollards more expensive but the result is unreal! great grip, great on road even the wet, no much noise at all, not the best on mud but still far in front of the yoko, mine have been on my car for more than 80 000km and are still good (wich make them way cheaper than the yoko km/$) petrol wise they added about 1litre more/100km . No modif for fitting, they change the speedo but so little I haven't noticed! So if anyone are not sure between the geolander or the BF, it is a no brainer for me, if you go 4x4 that is. I use my io for every day use, not much 4x4 (but I don't like not coming back because of loss of grip!), lots on road.
These tyres get me up and down a track called "gentle Annie trail" to go to a place call "flea creek" Brindabella national park NSW, google it and check yourself.
At least I have try to give some advice too!! this is the only thing I have done...but made a BIG difference!
What is the best way to drop the diff?
Thanks again.
Claud io
Hey mate, sounds good, my
Hey mate, sounds good, my speedo is out around 10km at 100kmh too. If you were to drop the front diff it would be classed as unroadworthy, if anyone looked anyway :) any changes made to stock components need to be certified by an engineer. There is a topic on this site "front diff drop" check that out, and there are a few photos there aswell. :)
I am also in NSW maybe we can meet up for a trip somewhere down the track, good to see your interest for 4wding is growing, they really are great cars!
Just spent a whole heap on
Just spent a whole heap on getting things fixed for my io recently, plus changing ALL my fluids and then BAM! snapped my transfer case trying to tighten a bolt, really over it ay! someone talk me out of selling my io and buying a patrol that was actually made for the things im using it for, so now i need a bloody half of a transfer case cover. ive honestly forked out more fixing shit than i paid for the car.
Transfer case
Hello,
Might be worth a try to bring that broken part to an engineer, or a "part maker" to weld it. Mine have 140000km and I never had a problem, it goes to the dealer every 10/15 000km for service...I hope that it will stay that way for a while more. A bigger 4wd is always tempting but maintenance can be way more than the io. This said the io cannot do what a patrol can...and way easier to modified.
I hope that your io is not going to be the type of car that know when you get paid:)
All the best,
Happy io.
money pit
I've been thinking about trading up to a D22 navara lately, but can't afford it yet. I'm thinking about saving up to buy brand new - I saw some demo ST-R models for $28,900 driveaway, which is absolutely nuts for a jap built, dual gear stick, turbo diesel dual cab ute (with plenty of aftermarket bits available) - imagine seeing a 3 door iO being sold for $26,990 plus on roads next to one of these things! I only hope they continue building the D22 model so I can get one off the showroom floor when I can afford it.
In the mean time, my thinking is thus:
The restriction of aftermarket bits for the iO is a blessing. I already have a $5000 shopping list for the Navara with bits straight off the shelf (not including fitting!). So for the time being, I'll be making the best of things with my iO, enjoying driving a compact car day to day, that can also take me to a few great camping/fishing spots on the weekend. I'm still yet to test my mud tyres out properly off road, but with these and the underbody protection which I'm half way through making, I've got plenty of fun ahead of me while I save for something bigger.
So whatever you buy next, its either going to be perfectly set up and cost you, or you will spend plenty on getting it set up after you purchase. If you are prepared for this, then go for it. Also don't forget that all used cars have their quirks - if something seems too good to be true, there's probably a reason.
money pit
110 % agreed, but on the end of the day, they all cost money!! Doing the job yourself can a pain (I used to do up some car in my garage till very late to pay for my house) but the saving is great.
I like doing some mod on mine to go easier on the car (using a bit less the momentum!) and make it that I can come back from my fishing spot (no name, this time!)
I like the price comparaison...I wonder why there are not more io:(
Happy io, or whatever...:)
Transfer case
Just spent a whole heap on getting things fixed for my io recently, plus changing ALL my fluids and then BAM! snapped my transfer case trying to tighten a bolt, really over it ay! someone talk me out of selling my io and buying a patrol that was actually made for the things im using it for, so now i need a bloody half of a transfer case cover. ive honestly forked out more fixing shit than i paid for the car.
Bugger! There's an io in archerfield being wrecked,
If you find a box in bris me know if you want a hand moving it south, I'd be happy to collect and meet you half way :)
Sorry guys was having a
Sorry guys was having a little bitch session :p its true all cars cost heaps to keep running if ya wanna take good care of them. and the good thing i suppose is i know exactly what has been replaced on my io, never know what will go wrong with a new car. ive got it sorta fixed, used some hard setting metal stuff for now, only really a temporary fix but will do. selling the little beast now would be a giant waste of time and money.
Ill post some more pics soon, got the snorkel finished with a k&n apollo intake and have added a roof cage. i cant help but spend most of my spare cash on the io, might have to hit glen up for some of those coilovers ;)
Cheers for the offer bob! ill see how it goes for a little while. :)
Some more bits and pieces
Some more bits and pieces added, really need to lift it a bit tho, even if its just 30mm, the tracks around here are pretty nuts and im finding myself going around the fun bits instead through them :)
Added roof cage for extra storage and finally a proper snorkel ram!!
Custom alloy bash plate, small dent already but anything is better than the stock one, i thought it would be better attatched to the chassis rather than the flimsy stock attatch points.
K&n working well, easy to check and watertight.
My dodgy fix for the transfer case lol, has worked so far...
look forward to meeting up and having some fun!!
Oh and notice ive taken the dobinson springs out :(
K&N
Have you noticed any change in power or economy with the K&N filter?
Looks awesome!
With my bash plate I used a clip-on nutsert thing on the holes on the outsides of the front suspension parts and bolted to that as well as the std points. Seems pretty solid. I didn't bother with holes in it either - the stock plate doesn't really have any.
bash plate
Looking good,
I haven't seen that bit you added to the snorkel before, new air filter?...Your bash plate is it alu, 3mm thick? I am asking because I have one spare half sheet, but I thought that it might be a bit thin and got a bit scare to try! (as you said, still better that the original one)
Happy io
Syndicate
Nice
WOW. Those dobinson springs look like they give you a fair bit of lift. I should really pull my finger out and get mine installed.
Nice lookin iO!